XPS to IDS - a positive note for all from the road

>2) you have any right to judge me or anyone else,

look who is talking. How many times you have abused
IBM and IBM employees. I wonder whether you have the
balls to say that on someone's face.

>last time I was a IIUG director I was nominated unanimously for the
>position, so please **** off and die.

yes, the news is there http://www.miug.com/previous/1998/news0698.html

Tim, that was ten years ago. No one denies that you were great
to informix community at one time. I would be the last person
to do so. But for the last many years, you have lost that respect
by your incessant nonsense. You are posting only **** now, which
except for looney bins like IMG is deemed worthless by the rest.


>My interest in Informix is still
>as high as it ever was, hoping against hope that the useless ****s at IBM
>will get off their asses and do something meaningful with the marketing.

and you think your way of engaging IBM (posting as an anonymous runt every 3
months with a new nick) is going to work. if yes, then you are a bigger idiot
than you have presented yourself so far.

On Aug 27, 5:22*pm, Sherlock Holmes <2...@bakerstreet.org> wrote:
> >2) you have any right to judge me or anyone else,
>
> look who is talking. How many times you have abused
> IBM and IBM employees. I wonder whether you have the
> balls to say that on someone's face.
>
> >last time I was a IIUG director I was nominated unanimously for the
> >position, so please **** off and die.
>
> yes, the news is therehttp://www.miug.com/previous/1998/news0698.html
>
> Tim, that was ten years ago. *No one denies that you were great
> to informix community at one time. I would be the last person
> to do so. But for the last many years, you have lost that respect
> by your incessant nonsense. You are posting only **** now, which
> except for looney bins like IMG is deemed worthless by the rest.
>
> >My interest in Informix is still
> >as high as it ever was, hoping against hope that the useless ****s at IBM
> >will get off their asses and do something meaningful with the marketing.
>
> and you think your way of engaging IBM (posting as an anonymous runt every 3
> months with a new nick) is going to work. if yes, then you are a bigger idiot
> than you have presented yourself so far.

I'm excited. NOW I know how to get elected unanimously to IIUG Board
thanks InGumbyDeep - use great communication skill like "**** off and
die!". With all respect Ravi, if this is example of InGumbyDeep
intellect, them he NEVER a true Informix person.

Splintter-Speaks-Only-Twuth

Sherlock Holmes wrote:
>> 2) you have any right to judge me or anyone else,
>
> look who is talking. How many times you have abused
> IBM and IBM employees. I wonder whether you have the
> balls to say that on someone's face.
>

It'll be easy if I aim correctly.

>> last time I was a IIUG director I was nominated unanimously for the
>> position, so please **** off and die.
>
> yes, the news is there http://www.miug.com/previous/1998/news0698.html
>
> Tim, that was ten years ago. No one denies that you were great
> to informix community at one time. I would be the last person
> to do so. But for the last many years, you have lost that respect
> by your incessant nonsense. You are posting only **** now, which
> except for looney bins like IMG is deemed worthless by the rest.
>
Ravi,

10 years have indeed gone by, and good that I moved away from Informix
for work, otherwise I'd have starved to death. Before you think that
I am the only one with my opinions, you should educate yourself before
speaking. In your own esteemed opinion you are entitled to say whatever
you like, just as I too am entitled to do. Sorry that you don't like
my opinions, but I'll continue to direct my statements directly to IBM
and not towards anyone unless they want to attack me personally. IBM
has a long way to go before they can claim any high ground with Informix.
They talk a good story but the market doesn't show much for IDS. I can
only conclude that complete idiots or retards are in charge of Informix
marketing. They have to be complete dolts, there isn't any other way
to go with it.

After you get done bashing me, why not ask some pointed questions at IBM
and see how far you get. See if whispering sweet nothings to IBM will
score you any more points that my approach. At least IBM knows that I'm
market-driven and not trying to score points with them, to the point that
I don't want anything from IBM other than simply getting IDS out there
into the mainstream market. I don't want or need a job from Informix like
you or others, I don't want the political benefits, just get the ****ing
product out there. That's why I post anon, and hope that in the future
you ****ing jackass that you will respect that. Excuse me now, I have
to get back to work, and thankful that I don't depend on IBM or Informix
to feed my family. 10 years later since Informix-on-Linux, and what do
we have to show for it? Not much. Do I care? Hell yes, and I expect
better out of IBM and the people that have kept IDS from succeeding. If
you don't get that then you are a bigger idiot than you ever thought I
was.

Hey, you missed the real point

I wrote:-

"and you think your way of engaging IBM (posting as an anonymous runt every 3
months with a new nick) is going to work. if yes, then you are a bigger idiot
than you have presented yourself so far."

Does it ring a bell?? Do you remember the time
IBM told you to shut up if you want to see an
Informix port to Linux. Looks like you never
learned the lesson.

I am deleting the rest of your insanity plea.
It is not something which you have not already
told 1000 times before.

it is sad state of cdi where the top 3 posters
this month are top 3 trolls.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....informix/about

On Aug 27, 2:31 pm, InDeep wrote:

> Please, enlighten me with your contributions to the discussion Ravi.
>
> Otherwise **** off and die.

Timmy, relax.
These are sock puppets of idiots who don't know jack. It would be
interesting if they in fact did work for IBM. It would further prove
that hydrocephali doesn't mean you can't get a job beyond biting heads
off chickens in a side show.

Lets face it. How many people forgot that Informix blew their chance
to be first to port to Linux.
(Oh yeah, no one is going to use an operating system like that for a
server.) ;-)

10 years ago.

So what does that tell you?

On Aug 27, 4:22 pm, Sherlock Holmes <2...@bakerstreet.org> wrote:
> >2) you have any right to judge me or anyone else,
>
> look who is talking. How many times you have abused
> IBM and IBM employees. I wonder whether you have the
> balls to say that on someone's face.
>

Ravi?
I guess that'll do.
Hey dude! Come to Chicago and I'll tell it to your face.
I'll bust the chops of any IBMer who's a slacker or a total idiot.
I've done it before and I'll do it again.

Why don't you go and do that little homework assignment I asked about.
I asked another IBMer and he found some info in about 15 mins. But
that didn't tell the whole story. ;-)

Go on, check out SIAC.

On Aug 27, 5:30 pm, splint...@ymail.com wrote:
NEVER a true Informix person.
>
> Splintter-Speaks-Only-Twuth

That's funny. Weren't you the idiot who created this alias by saying
you were a recent Oracle to Informix convert? Then claiming to be an
IBMer?

Dude! If you can't get your facts straight why should I or Timmy
bother playing with you.

So go figure out why I keep mentioning SIAC. Ask your best buds who
think that they're in the know.
Then go talk to Deb Landers.I'd tell you to ask Cathy Priest but she
retired.

On Aug 27, 7:11 pm, Sherlock Holmes <2...@bakerstreet.org> wrote:

>
> it is sad state of cdi where the top 3 posters
> this month are top 3 trolls.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....nformix/aboutT

That's funny. Two of the top 3 posters know a hell a lot more that you
do.

Troll.

Sherlock Holmes wrote:
> Hey, you missed the real point
>
> I wrote:-
>
> "and you think your way of engaging IBM (posting as an anonymous runt every 3
> months with a new nick) is going to work. if yes, then you are a bigger idiot
> than you have presented yourself so far."
>
> Does it ring a bell?? Do you remember the time
> IBM told you to shut up if you want to see an
> Informix port to Linux. Looks like you never
> learned the lesson.
>

IBM was not involved in the port to Linux, at least not to my
knowledge. There may have been some background activity, but
nobody from IBM ever contacted me and told me to be quiet about
Informix => Linux. I don't think even IBM was into Linux back
in '97-98, if they were, it was all on the down low. The only
people I ever dealt with were at Informix, and only on a couple
of occasions, nothing beyond a short note. IBM wasn't even in
the picture then. I know the IIUG at the time was really into
corporate sychophantry on a grand scale, and didn't like anyone
to speak up without their blessing, but even they had trouble
keeping the lid on.

But the real question is...

Why do you even care? Are you some kind of IBM apologist? IBM
has all these paid people to stand up for them, and you do it for
free, very strange behavior. I have seen this behavior over the
past few years, and just baffled how people want to suck up to
vendors to get something out of them. As if their lives could
not be complete without some kind of corporate recognition, or
because they value their miserable gray careers at IBM so much they
are just not strong enough to stand up and either say what should
be done, or do and act on doing the right things. Some kind of
group paralysis or something. Just baffling. And then you come
swinging a machete through the conversation trying to derail people
on the real issues, it's just wierd how you could be so retarded
and foggy headed. Really strange.


> it is sad state of cdi where the top 3 posters
> this month are top 3 trolls.
>
Even sadder that you saw fit to attack the wrong problem, and
the wrong issues, without the high moral ground. You want to be
proven right, and I want to be proven wrong, and friends will never
change.

-ID-

Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
> On Aug 27, 2:31 pm, InDeep wrote:
>
>> Please, enlighten me with your contributions to the discussion Ravi.
>>
>> Otherwise **** off and die.
>
> Timmy, relax.
> These are sock puppets of idiots who don't know jack. It would be
> interesting if they in fact did work for IBM. It would further prove
> that hydrocephali doesn't mean you can't get a job beyond biting heads
> off chickens in a side show.
>
> Lets face it. How many people forgot that Informix blew their chance
> to be first to port to Linux.
> (Oh yeah, no one is going to use an operating system like that for a
> server.) ;-)
>
> 10 years ago.
>
> So what does that tell you?
>

Mikey,

10 years is a long time by a lot of standards. In internet time it is
several generations of technological transformation across the planet
and several significant political evolutions, not to mention all the
other stuff that has happened over the past 10 years. It is astonishing
that 10 years later we still see Informix floundering needlessly, and
still see people getting caught up in attacking the few people who want
to see the product succeed. Most of the past 10 years have seen little
if any Informix in the market, only as as an occasional footnote in a
conversation, never seen in circles it should occupy because its caretakers
have no clue what to do with it. 10 long years, and somehow my expectations
are still too high. 10 long years and somehow Oracles' growth has taken
off using the very principles that we talk about here. If Informix were
really allowed to succeed, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

We'll talk again in 10 years, and I'll be retired off of a better business
career without IBM or Informix. Informix never had a chance no matter how
good it was. In 10 years anything Informix had going for it will not matter
anymore anyway. C'est la vie. The dolts will have long left IBM and there
won't be any more said about it, other than old men knowing about a really
missed opportunity. And that will be that.

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