Re: [Info-Ingres] ABF to GUI

Hi Roy,
thanks for your answer.

Is the presentation you mention available somewhere on the web ?

Regards
Piotr Wi¶niewski

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Hann [mailto:specially-at-processed.almost.meat]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:39 AM
To: info-ingres-at-kettleriverconsulting.com
Subject: Re: [Info-Ingres] ABF to GUI

Wi¶niewski, Piotr, (ProService AT) wrote:

> We're thinking about porting a quite complex ABF application to GUI.
>
> I know ther was a CA tool called TransForge for moving ABF app to
OpenRoad.
>
> Is it supported by the Ingres Corporation ? Is there similar tool for
other
> GUI platforms (for example Java) ?

Hi Piotr:

Yes, Ingres Corp continues to enhance and support Transforge. I am on
record here over many years as a Transforge sceptic but Neil Warnock did
a presentation on it at the UK IUA 2008 Conference that persuaded me
that it might have matured to the point where I would consider using it.

Luminary will do a demo migration of parts of an ABF application for
free, so it's easy enough to see what you would get. The finished
result certainly has fantastic showroom appeal.

I don't know of any ABF to Java conversion tool.

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Wi¶niewski, Piotr, (ProService AT) wrote:

> Hi Roy,
> thanks for your answer.
>
> Is the presentation you mention available somewhere on the web ?

You might find it on the Luminary site. If it's not there then I'm sure
Neil Warnock would be happy to send it to you if you ask. His address
is of the form firstname.lastname-at-luminary.co.uk.

--
Roy

UK Ingres User Association Conference 2009 will be on Tuesday June 9, 2009
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On 26 Aug, 11:33, Roy Hann wrote:
> Wi¶niewski, Piotr, (ProService AT) wrote:
>
> > Hi Roy,
> > thanks for your answer.
>
> > Is the presentation you mention available somewhere on the web ?
>
> You might find it on the Luminary site. *If it's not there then I'm sure
> Neil Warnock would be happy to send it to you if you ask. *His address
> is of the form firstname.lastn...@luminary.co.uk.
>
> --
> Roy
>
> UK Ingres User Association Conference 2009 will be on Tuesday June 9, 2009
> Go tohttp://www.iua.org.uk/jointo get on the mailing list.

Hi Piotr,

My name is Rich Smith and I work at Luminary - An Ingres Company. We
have been speaking to a number of customers about the 'modernisation'
of their ABF applications using Transforge and other related tools and
processes. We have put these tools and processes (including
Transforge) under the title 'Ingres Alchemy' which Neil Warnock has
talked about in a number of his recent presentations, including the
UKIUA 2008 one mentioned by Roy.

Transforge can be used to convert ABF to 'thick' client OpenROAD,
'thin' client OpenROAD, or a combination of both. You can also apply a
palette based approach to the resultant OpenROAD allowing you to have
different user interface 'themes' but with a single codeline, for
example high contrast and large fonts for users with vision
difficulties. You can also expose parts (or all) of the application
to the web or mobile devices using our SOA refactoring approach, again
part of the Ingres Alchemy toolset.

We would be happy to show you what's possible with your ABF
application, and can even run a discovery report that (if nothing
else) will give you a detailed picture of your current ABF app, i.e.
no of frames, lines of code, 3gl procs, etc. We would then use this to
produce an estimate the effort involved in the Transforge process (if
that's something you would be interested in). This sample demo and
discovery report is *free* as Roy pointed out, and if it's something
you would want to pursue we can take this offline and discuss further.

My email is of the form firstname.lastn...@luminary.co.uk

I will also send you a copy of Neil's presentation seperately

Regards

Rich Smith