renaming folder in Domino??

Hello

I have searched from help and web a solution for my problem, but this seems
to be very tricky or I have wrong search terms..

I want to rename a Domino folder that contains databases to with another
name, is this possible in any easy way and with this I mean that our users
wouldn't have to search the databases again?

For example I wan't to rename folder like this:
C:\Lotus\Domino\Data\Student\...many databases... to
C:\Lotus\Domino\Data\Teacher\..still many databases..

If I just rename this from Windows filesystem, our users get errormessage
and they are asked to search the database, but I would like to do this
without users having to search or do anything, but is it actually possible
at all?

Thanks in advance
-Meea

Did the solutions you found mention "directory links"? You'd create a
text file called "student.dir" in "C:\Lotus\Domino\Data" which simply
contained "C:\Lotus\Domino\Data\Teacher" so that the server knows
where you've moved it to.

Domino 8 also has some new redirection facilities which may help if
you have that version.

Lester


On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:22:05 +0300, "Meea" wrote:

>Hello
>
>I want to rename a Domino folder that contains databases to with another
>name, is this possible in any easy way and with this I mean that our users
>wouldn't have to search the databases again?
>
>For example I wan't to rename folder like this:
>C:\Lotus\Domino\Data\Student\...many databases... to
>C:\Lotus\Domino\Data\Teacher\..still many databases..
>

Hello

Yes, this was one of the solutions that I found. But doesn't this mean I
cannot actually rename folder, since I cannot link anything to Domino data
directory? I tested this on our testserver and I couln't make this work..
Maybe I just didn't understand the text in this help.. (Domino R 7.0.2)

Well, anyway now I just stopped Domino and renamed the folder and told our
users to press the button OK, when they get the 'database cannot be found'
error... I only wondered that isn't there any other way to do this, I would
think that sometimes organisations may change their department's names etc.?

Thanks anyway
Meea

"Lester" wrote in message
news:as6l94h7m3roq6cf6gs4qg14f9b3fngit0-at-4ax.com...
> Did the solutions you found mention "directory links"? You'd create a
> text file called "student.dir" in "C:\Lotus\Domino\Data" which simply
> contained "C:\Lotus\Domino\Data\Teacher" so that the server knows
> where you've moved it to.
>
> Domino 8 also has some new redirection facilities which may help if
> you have that version.
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:22:05 +0300, "Meea" wrote:
>
> >Hello
> >
> >I want to rename a Domino folder that contains databases to with another
> >name, is this possible in any easy way and with this I mean that our
users
> >wouldn't have to search the databases again?
> >
> >For example I wan't to rename folder like this:
> >C:\Lotus\Domino\Data\Student\...many databases... to
> >C:\Lotus\Domino\Data\Teacher\..still many databases..
> >

I've just tried this and the problem is you end up with old and new
directory names shown, though both point to the same place. So you
would have changed the folder name on the file level and the users
wouldn't notice since their links would work but the Database Open
dialog might cause confusion.

Directory links have been around for ages but are more used to allow
the Domino server to access storage outside the data directory, for
example on another drive letter.

What is the background to the requirement?

I don't think there is a simple answer here. Do you use Notes
policies to control the users desktop?




On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:47:25 +0300, "Meea" wrote:

>Hello
>
>Yes, this was one of the solutions that I found. But doesn't this mean I
>cannot actually rename folder, since I cannot link anything to Domino data
>directory? I tested this on our testserver and I couln't make this work..
>Maybe I just didn't understand the text in this help.. (Domino R 7.0.2)
>
>Well, anyway now I just stopped Domino and renamed the folder and told our
>users to press the button OK, when they get the 'database cannot be found'
>error... I only wondered that isn't there any other way to do this, I would
>think that sometimes organisations may change their department's names etc.?
>
>Thanks anyway
>Meea

Hi

That is just the case I found out also, I thought I was doing something
wrong, but apparently it was supposed to do so.. I haven't found any use for
these directory links yet in our environment.

The reason I had to change directoryname was that one of our departments
changed name and they wanted to see their folder with new name when they
open their databases from notes client.. The problem will be (for me..) that
if other departments find this out, they want their 'directories' to be
named with their new department names.. work work work for me ;o)

My real problem is, that our users are so.., how could I put this nicely...,
they lack of skill and they become illiterate (not native english) when any
messages pops up while using notes client, so I tried or wanted to try if I
can rename the folder or move databases to another folder with new name
without any error popups or messages..

We do use policies, but some of these databases are in use (acl also) with
special group gathered from allmost every department, that I would have to
make several explicit policies just to make sure that icons wouldn't appear
to people who aren't allowed to use database in question.

And, with this I'm not sure, isn't it so that I cannot clean users desktop
with policy? I mean even in cases if I totally move Database to another
dominoserver, I can create the new icon for users, but even if I delete the
old icon from policy it won't delete it from users notes desktop or
bookmarks? We do allow our users to modify their own notes desktops.

-Meea

"Lester" wrote in message
news:0qkl945k0gm8fdlthhuufmhn411f46pn35-at-4ax.com...
> I've just tried this and the problem is you end up with old and new
> directory names shown, though both point to the same place. So you
> would have changed the folder name on the file level and the users
> wouldn't notice since their links would work but the Database Open
> dialog might cause confusion.
>
> Directory links have been around for ages but are more used to allow
> the Domino server to access storage outside the data directory, for
> example on another drive letter.
>
> What is the background to the requirement?
>
> I don't think there is a simple answer here. Do you use Notes
> policies to control the users desktop?
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:47:25 +0300, "Meea" wrote:
>
> >Hello
> >
> >Yes, this was one of the solutions that I found. But doesn't this mean I
> >cannot actually rename folder, since I cannot link anything to Domino
data
> >directory? I tested this on our testserver and I couln't make this work..
> >Maybe I just didn't understand the text in this help.. (Domino R 7.0.2)
> >
> >Well, anyway now I just stopped Domino and renamed the folder and told
our
> >users to press the button OK, when they get the 'database cannot be
found'
> >error... I only wondered that isn't there any other way to do this, I
would
> >think that sometimes organisations may change their department's names
etc.?
> >
> >Thanks anyway
> >Meea

Sometimes it's in the best interest for everyone to be polite but firm
in saying what the user wants is not really the best solution. Have
you considered a database library where users could simply go to a
Notes database and click on database links for the databases they
need? This would eliminate the need for users to use the Open
Database dialog at all. A well managed library would have other
benefits too.

As you say, creating a precedent for changing the directories on the
server is going to lead to more work. You could end up changing the
same folder over and over again.


On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:15:47 +0300, "Meea" wrote:

>Hi
>
>That is just the case I found out also, I thought I was doing something
>wrong, but apparently it was supposed to do so.. I haven't found any use for
>these directory links yet in our environment.
>
>The reason I had to change directoryname was that one of our departments
>changed name and they wanted to see their folder with new name when they
>open their databases from notes client.. The problem will be (for me..) that
>if other departments find this out, they want their 'directories' to be
>named with their new department names.. work work work for me ;o)
>
>My real problem is, that our users are so.., how could I put this nicely...,
>they lack of skill and they become illiterate (not native english) when any
>messages pops up while using notes client, so I tried or wanted to try if I
>can rename the folder or move databases to another folder with new name
>without any error popups or messages..
>
>We do use policies, but some of these databases are in use (acl also) with
>special group gathered from allmost every department, that I would have to
>make several explicit policies just to make sure that icons wouldn't appear
>to people who aren't allowed to use database in question.
>
>And, with this I'm not sure, isn't it so that I cannot clean users desktop
>with policy? I mean even in cases if I totally move Database to another
>dominoserver, I can create the new icon for users, but even if I delete the
>old icon from policy it won't delete it from users notes desktop or
>bookmarks? We do allow our users to modify their own notes desktops.
>
>-Meea
>

Hello

Database library sounds interesting, I just lookd it up from help. This is
something I didn't know about. Funny that I don't recall learning about
database library even when attending domino admin courses. Maybe it is so
obvious that if you're domino admin you should try how every database
works.. if I only had the time.. )

Thank you for good tip!!

-Meea

"Lester" wrote in message
news:0e8t94lvpjh60jf2mqpclkellm93eqdbr4-at-4ax.com...
> Sometimes it's in the best interest for everyone to be polite but firm
> in saying what the user wants is not really the best solution. Have
> you considered a database library where users could simply go to a
> Notes database and click on database links for the databases they
> need? This would eliminate the need for users to use the Open
> Database dialog at all. A well managed library would have other
> benefits too.
>
> As you say, creating a precedent for changing the directories on the
> server is going to lead to more work. You could end up changing the
> same folder over and over again.
>
>
> On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:15:47 +0300, "Meea" wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >That is just the case I found out also, I thought I was doing something
> >wrong, but apparently it was supposed to do so.. I haven't found any use
for
> >these directory links yet in our environment.
> >
> >The reason I had to change directoryname was that one of our departments
> >changed name and they wanted to see their folder with new name when they
> >open their databases from notes client.. The problem will be (for me..)
that
> >if other departments find this out, they want their 'directories' to be
> >named with their new department names.. work work work for me ;o)
> >
> >My real problem is, that our users are so.., how could I put this
nicely...,
> >they lack of skill and they become illiterate (not native english) when
any
> >messages pops up while using notes client, so I tried or wanted to try if
I
> >can rename the folder or move databases to another folder with new name
> >without any error popups or messages..
> >
> >We do use policies, but some of these databases are in use (acl also)
with
> >special group gathered from allmost every department, that I would have
to
> >make several explicit policies just to make sure that icons wouldn't
appear
> >to people who aren't allowed to use database in question.
> >
> >And, with this I'm not sure, isn't it so that I cannot clean users
desktop
> >with policy? I mean even in cases if I totally move Database to another
> >dominoserver, I can create the new icon for users, but even if I delete
the
> >old icon from policy it won't delete it from users notes desktop or
> >bookmarks? We do allow our users to modify their own notes desktops.
> >
> >-Meea
> >