How to make the right corner closing cross invisible

Tom,

The only what I can say now is Lyle is a little bit frustrated and he needs
professional help and we are not able to help him.

Kind regards,

Simon



"Tom van Stiphout" wrote in message
news:6lc9b450pn816rc5fiefg9p30c2ifj1r5f-at-4ax.com...
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:05:31 +0200, "Simon van Beek"
> wrote:
>
> Hi Simon,
> I would phrase it a bit more elegantly than Lyle, but I do feel he is
> right on the substance. It is REALLY unusual to require this sort of
> functionality; there usually is a MUCH better and more compatible
> alternative.
> I hope you won't be offended and will take the criticism to heart.
> Perhaps you will post a new message that starts with: "I want to do
> ABC and the best way I can think of doing that is to diable the Close
> Application button. Can you suggest better alternatives?"
>
> -Tom.
> Microsoft Access MVP
>
>
>>Tom,
>>
>>I try to accomplish that users can't close the application with this
>>button
>>[x] but
>>they have to close the application via a form.
>>
>>-Simon
>>"Tom van Stiphout" wrote in message
>>news:dvp6b4d95esjkoho5f5kna4k9u7b2dksii-at-4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:13:06 +0200, "Simon van Beek"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's not impossible, but not easy either. What are you trying to
>>> accomplish? That users can't close your app? There are other ways to
>>> do that (e.g. see Cancel argument of Form_Unload). Remember some of
>>> them will use Task Manager to nuke your app if you go down that way.
>>> You can intercept that as well, but at an even higher cost.
>>>
>>> So what are you really trying to accomplish?
>>>
>>> -Tom.
>>> Microsoft Access MVP
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dear reader,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>By opening an application I get always the main Access window with the
>>>>closing cross [x] in the above right corner. Is there a possibility to
>>>>make
>>>>this closing cross invisible?
>>>>
>>>>All the settings in the Start-up form under Tools are disabled but the
>>>>closing cross in the above right corner is still visible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for any help.
>>>>
>>>>Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>>Simon
>>>>
>>

Speaking of "professional" help someone wrote EnableTitleBarControls
and DisableTitleBarControls procedures and published them in CDMA back
in the previous century.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a49834e9e666a1

Oh, what a dilemma this is! He wrote EnableCloseButton and
DisableCloseButton procedures too.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....49d160dcdcb973

Who could it have been?

They're not exactly what you want as they act on the Access window
instead of a form but they could easily be modified by anyone who
wasn't bone-dead lazy and bucket-of-rocks stupid, to meet your
request. I guess that explains why I didn't suggest them earlier.

Did I mention that the procedure writer said in the same thread, "I
have no idea why anyone Would_Want to do this. (I'm assuming there
must be some way to close, so why not let Access do it in what appears
to be a safe way)"? Right now in 2008 the bucket-of-rocks stupid
hypothesis seems promising.

On Aug 27, 1:48*am, "Simon van Beek" wrote:
> Tom,
>
> The only what I can say now is Lyle is a little bit frustrated and he needs
> professional help and we are not able to help him.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Simon
>
> "Tom van Stiphout" wrote in messagenews:6lc9b450pn816rc5fiefg9p30c2ifj1r5f-at-4ax .com...
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:05:31 +0200, "Simon van Beek"
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi Simon,
> > I would phrase it a bit more elegantly than Lyle, but I do feel he is
> > right on the substance. It is REALLY unusual to require this sort of
> > functionality; there usually is a MUCH better and more compatible
> > alternative.
> > I hope you won't be offended and will take the criticism to heart.
> > Perhaps you will post a new message that starts with: "I want to do
> > ABC and the best way I can think of doing that is to diable the Close
> > Application button. Can you suggest better alternatives?"
>
> > -Tom.
> > Microsoft Access MVP
>
> >>Tom,
>
> >>I try to accomplish that users can't close the application with this
> >>button
> >>[x] but
> >>they have to close the application via a form.
>
> >>-Simon
> >>"Tom van Stiphout" wrote in message
> >>news:dvp6b4d95esjkoho5f5kna4k9u7b2dksii-at-4ax.com...
> >>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:13:06 +0200, "Simon van Beek"
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>> That's not impossible, but not easy either. What are you trying to
> >>> accomplish? That users can't close your app? There are other ways to
> >>> do that (e.g. see Cancel argument of Form_Unload). Remember some of
> >>> them will use Task Manager to nuke your app if you go down that way.
> >>> You can intercept that as well, but at an even higher cost.
>
> >>> So what are you really trying to accomplish?
>
> >>> -Tom.
> >>> Microsoft Access MVP
>
> >>>>Dear reader,
>
> >>>>By opening an application I get always the main Access window with the
> >>>>closing cross [x] in the above right corner. Is there a possibility to
> >>>>make
> >>>>this closing cross invisible?
>
> >>>>All the settings in the Start-up form under Tools are disabled but the
> >>>>closing cross in the above right corner is still visible.
>
> >>>>Thanks for any help.
>
> >>>>Kind regards,
>
> >>>>Simon

What a long winded tale this is.

The reason that I have stopped the normal closing of a form (& Database) is that I
am using Peters "ShrinkerStretcher to resize a form and it's controls. If I
have modified a form in design view, switched to form view and save the
form, the size of every control gets changed. So it is essential that a
modified form can only be closed and saved from desigh view, not form view.

Maybe you did in in anticipation of things to come.

Phil


"lyle fairfield" wrote in message
news:a3fd6e4d-d9fc-48ee-889d-38a7f42b8eb5-at-56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
Speaking of "professional" help someone wrote EnableTitleBarControls
and DisableTitleBarControls procedures and published them in CDMA back
in the previous century.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a49834e9e666a1

Oh, what a dilemma this is! He wrote EnableCloseButton and
DisableCloseButton procedures too.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....49d160dcdcb973

Who could it have been?

They're not exactly what you want as they act on the Access window
instead of a form but they could easily be modified by anyone who
wasn't bone-dead lazy and bucket-of-rocks stupid, to meet your
request. I guess that explains why I didn't suggest them earlier.

Did I mention that the procedure writer said in the same thread, "I
have no idea why anyone Would_Want to do this. (I'm assuming there
must be some way to close, so why not let Access do it in what appears
to be a safe way)"? Right now in 2008 the bucket-of-rocks stupid
hypothesis seems promising.

On Aug 27, 1:48 am, "Simon van Beek" wrote:
> Tom,
>
> The only what I can say now is Lyle is a little bit frustrated and he
> needs
> professional help and we are not able to help him.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Simon
>
> "Tom van Stiphout" wrote in
> messagenews:6lc9b450pn816rc5fiefg9p30c2ifj1r5f-at-4ax .com...
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:05:31 +0200, "Simon van Beek"
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi Simon,
> > I would phrase it a bit more elegantly than Lyle, but I do feel he is
> > right on the substance. It is REALLY unusual to require this sort of
> > functionality; there usually is a MUCH better and more compatible
> > alternative.
> > I hope you won't be offended and will take the criticism to heart.
> > Perhaps you will post a new message that starts with: "I want to do
> > ABC and the best way I can think of doing that is to diable the Close
> > Application button. Can you suggest better alternatives?"
>
> > -Tom.
> > Microsoft Access MVP
>
> >>Tom,
>
> >>I try to accomplish that users can't close the application with this
> >>button
> >>[x] but
> >>they have to close the application via a form.
>
> >>-Simon
> >>"Tom van Stiphout" wrote in message
> >>news:dvp6b4d95esjkoho5f5kna4k9u7b2dksii-at-4ax.com...
> >>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:13:06 +0200, "Simon van Beek"
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>> That's not impossible, but not easy either. What are you trying to
> >>> accomplish? That users can't close your app? There are other ways to
> >>> do that (e.g. see Cancel argument of Form_Unload). Remember some of
> >>> them will use Task Manager to nuke your app if you go down that way.
> >>> You can intercept that as well, but at an even higher cost.
>
> >>> So what are you really trying to accomplish?
>
> >>> -Tom.
> >>> Microsoft Access MVP
>
> >>>>Dear reader,
>
> >>>>By opening an application I get always the main Access window with the
> >>>>closing cross [x] in the above right corner. Is there a possibility to
> >>>>make
> >>>>this closing cross invisible?
>
> >>>>All the settings in the Start-up form under Tools are disabled but the
> >>>>closing cross in the above right corner is still visible.
>
> >>>>Thanks for any help.
>
> >>>>Kind regards,
>
> >>>>Simon

On Aug 27, 6:51*am, lyle fairfield wrote:
> Speaking of "professional" help someone wrote EnableTitleBarControls
> and DisableTitleBarControls procedures and published them in CDMA back
> in the previous century.http://groups.google.com/group/comp..../msg/96a49834e...
>
> Oh, what a dilemma this is! He wrote EnableCloseButton and
> DisableCloseButton procedures too.http://groups.google.com/group/comp..../msg/6149d160d...
>
> Who could it have been?

It wasn't this James. C.f.:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....54712169e1eafe

"I found some code somewhere (perhaps Jeff's site), "

Even though I posted to CDMA in 1994,

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....7bff5d5affd8b8

the code I found was implemented after 1999.

James A. Fortune
CDMAPoster-at-FortuneJames.com