#pick chat on freenode has moved

Due to non-compliance with freenode channel registration guidelines, I've
dropped the registration for #pick and moved the chat to ##pick. It's not
considered on-topic for # channels so it must be an ##
channel. #pick is an available and unregistered channel for now and I don't
plan on registering ##pick either. No one hardly ever chats (including me).
Stop by either channel and see if anyone is around. I will join ##pick from
now on when I'm online.

GlenB

"GlenB" wrote:
> Due to non-compliance with freenode channel registration guidelines, I've
>dropped the registration for #pick and moved the chat to ##pick.

Hasn't IRC sort of gone the way of the dodo compared to audio channels
and now ready access to free video gatherings? I understand the
economy of bandwidth, but most Pick people don't congregate without
good reason, and if we had a worthwhile reason to congregate, I think
it would deserve a higher quality medium, no?

Note: I've been using IRC-style media since the late 70's and continue
to do so - in addition to other media where they seem appropriate. I
even write code that uses chat to accept requests and deliver MV data.
I also much prefer a Skype chat to an unannounced phone call and
prefer chat logs to having to listen to most noisy multi-party
discussions. Despite my orientation to text however, I still wonder
if it's worth it to try to keep it alive with this audience.

Best,
T

Even if I setup a free streaming A/V chat site for MV no one would
participate. I frequently offer help in several FreeNode channels so I idle
in ##pick too. I'm not promoting anything and I'm definitely not begging for
participation. This was just a note to anyone who may have met on FreeNode
in the past, that the original channel I registered is no longer active.
FWIW, you could consider that Usenet has gone the way of the dodo too but
both media types are highly active world-wide and have heavy participation
from lots of age groups and interests. Just because it's old doesn't mean
it's dead. You're still working with software from the 60's right?

GlenB

"Tony Gravagno" wrote in
message news:baqs945tkrlf4nhksm0i7eiju36eru3lq4-at-4ax.com...
> "GlenB" wrote:
>> Due to non-compliance with freenode channel registration guidelines, I've
>>dropped the registration for #pick and moved the chat to ##pick.
>
> Hasn't IRC sort of gone the way of the dodo compared to audio channels
> and now ready access to free video gatherings? I understand the
> economy of bandwidth, but most Pick people don't congregate without
> good reason, and if we had a worthwhile reason to congregate, I think
> it would deserve a higher quality medium, no?
>
> Note: I've been using IRC-style media since the late 70's and continue
> to do so - in addition to other media where they seem appropriate. I
> even write code that uses chat to accept requests and deliver MV data.
> I also much prefer a Skype chat to an unannounced phone call and
> prefer chat logs to having to listen to most noisy multi-party
> discussions. Despite my orientation to text however, I still wonder
> if it's worth it to try to keep it alive with this audience.
>
> Best,
> T
>

I hear ya on all fronts but based on the number of times I've seen the
word IRC uttered in these forums (outside of you and myself) in the
last 13+ years I don't think this particular medium is appreciated by
this audience. I have accounts with AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, and Skype
(and have interfaced MV with all of them). Most of our colleagues
that use the chat medium seem to be in Skype and that's because it
does both chat and voice. Looking at my list now it seems there is
fairly even distribution amongst the other interfaces. I have no idea
how many MV people have ever used IRC or do so on a regular basis.

As far as NNTP/Usenet, we've seen here that many people have no idea
that this is the protocol underlying their communications. The common
understanding is that Google provides everything, or at least that CDP
is somehow associated with Google, and if not Google then many people
think this is somehow run by or through some other website. CDP
participation grew after browsers provided a view of the data and I
think an IRC/chat medium might only do well if it's presented via a
link to some website that hosts a Java-based IRC client in a browser,
pre-configured to connect to freenode.

All that said, I dunno why but I just logged in (kubrick.freenode.net)
and no one else is home at ##pick. Using Trillian now - I really
miss all my old mIRC scripts - those were the good ol days...

Regards,
T


"GlenB" wrote:
> Even if I setup a free streaming A/V chat site for MV no one would
>participate. I frequently offer help in several FreeNode channels so I idle
>in ##pick too. I'm not promoting anything and I'm definitely not begging for
>participation. This was just a note to anyone who may have met on FreeNode
>in the past, that the original channel I registered is no longer active.
>FWIW, you could consider that Usenet has gone the way of the dodo too but
>both media types are highly active world-wide and have heavy participation
>from lots of age groups and interests. Just because it's old doesn't mean
>it's dead. You're still working with software from the 60's right?
>
>GlenB