VERY Old RDB Manuals (V2.3) wanted!

RDB V2.3 (or any other Version 2.x or 3.x) manuals wanted to borrow,
buy oder trade for hobbyist use.
Genuine manuals, copies or files (pdf/tiff/...), anything is welcome!

Regards

Ulli

P.S.

Theese are the manuals wanted:

AA-GQ93D-TE VAX RDB/VMS Release Notes
AA-JK92A-TE VAX Info Introduction to Database Development
AA-JK93A-TE VAX Info Introduction to Application Development
AA-JL07A-TE VAX RDB/VMS RDML Reference Manual
AA-KN51A-TE VAX RDB/VMS RDML Pocket Guide
AA-N032F-TE VAX RDB/VMS Installation Guide
AA-N033D-TE VAX RDB/VMS Pocket Guide
AA-N034B-TE VAX RDB/VMS Guide to Database Design and Definition
AA-N035C-TE VAX RDB/VMS Guide to Database Administration and
Maintenance
AA-N036C-TE VAX RDB/VMS Guide to Data Manipulation
AA-N038C-TE VAX RDB/VMS Guide to Programming
AA-N039D-TE VAX RDB/VMS Reference Manual
AD-N032F-T1 VAX RDB/VMS Installation Guide Update
AV-HX12B-TE VAX Info Doc Brochure
AV-N037E-TE VAX RDB/VMS Before you Install Letter

On Jul 28, 10:48*am, vaxorcist wrote:
> P.S.
>
> Theese are the manuals wanted:
>
> AA-GQ93D-TE VAX RDB/VMS Release Notes
> AA-JK92A-TE VAX Info Introduction to Database Development
> AA-JK93A-TE VAX Info Introduction to Application Development
> AA-JL07A-TE VAX RDB/VMS RDML Reference Manual
> AA-KN51A-TE VAX RDB/VMS RDML Pocket Guide
> AA-N032F-TE VAX RDB/VMS Installation Guide
> AA-N033D-TE VAX RDB/VMS Pocket Guide
> AA-N034B-TE VAX RDB/VMS Guide to Database Design and Definition
> AA-N035C-TE VAX RDB/VMS Guide to Database Administration and
> Maintenance
> AA-N036C-TE VAX RDB/VMS Guide to Data Manipulation
> AA-N038C-TE VAX RDB/VMS Guide to Programming
> AA-N039D-TE VAX RDB/VMS Reference Manual
> AD-N032F-T1 VAX RDB/VMS Installation Guide Update
> AV-HX12B-TE VAX Info Doc Brochure
> AV-N037E-TE VAX RDB/VMS Before you Install Letter

Do you know the timeframe for those releases? The oldest I have here
on hand is the November 1992 CONDOC kit and it covers Rdb V4.1. I
_might_ have a few older ones but only going back a year or two more,
in storage. As in its a pain in the rear to get at them and I won't
try if the 2.x or 3.x availability dates are before early 1990...

Rich

Rich Jordan wrote:
> As in its a pain in the rear to get at them and I won't
> try if the 2.x or 3.x availability dates are before early 1990...

The release note for 3.0 is Jul, 1988 and the earliest manuals I see
from the DEC archives at CHM are 1985.

Were they putting docs for layered products on documentation CDs this
early?

"vaxorcist" wrote in message
news:536a9b32-0c9a-4e47-bf84-80169e12fc76-at-x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> RDB V2.3 (or any other Version 2.x or 3.x) manuals wanted to borrow,
> buy oder trade for hobbyist use.
> Genuine manuals, copies or files (pdf/tiff/...), anything is welcome!

You won't want to use version 2.x or 3.x unless you really have to. There
was an 80% improvment in performance between version 3.0 and 4.1. See:
"How the Rdb/VMS Data Sharing System Became Fast (1992) "
by David Lomet Rick Anderson T. K. Rengarajan Peter Spiro

I can probably find manuals for 4.0 and above somewhere. I have all Rdb
versions from 4.0 up to modern versions.

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Al Kossow wrote in news:g6kviu$1am$1
@registered.motzarella.org:

> Rich Jordan wrote:
>> As in its a pain in the rear to get at them and I won't
>> try if the 2.x or 3.x availability dates are before early 1990...
>
> The release note for 3.0 is Jul, 1988 and the earliest manuals I see
> from the DEC archives at CHM are 1985.
>
> Were they putting docs for layered products on documentation CDs this
> early?

FWIW: My earliest Consolidated Software CD is May 1989.

Antonio

On Jul 28, 7:18 pm, Rich Jordan wrote:

> Do you know the timeframe for those releases? The oldest I have here
> on hand is the November 1992 CONDOC kit and it covers Rdb V4.1. I
> _might_ have a few older ones but only going back a year or two more,
> in storage. As in its a pain in the rear to get at them and I won't
> try if the 2.x or 3.x availability dates are before early 1990...
>
> Rich

RDB/VAX V2.3 release date is 9/87 (the last RDB version to work under
VMS V4.x).
But nevertheless thanks for considering to dig out old manuals ...

Regards,

Ulli

On Jul 28, 7:27 pm, Al Kossow wrote:

> The release note for 3.0 is Jul, 1988 and the earliest manuals I see
> from the DEC archives at CHM are 1985.
>
> Were they putting docs for layered products on documentation CDs this
> early?

What are the "DEC archives at CHM"?
Is it anything available online or otherwise?

Regards,

Ulli

"vaxorcist" wrote in message
news:f14d92ad-c2e7-40e3-8a89-05f9a20fdba2-at-b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 28, 7:27 pm, Al Kossow wrote:
>
>> The release note for 3.0 is Jul, 1988 and the earliest manuals I see
>> from the DEC archives at CHM are 1985.
....
> What are the "DEC archives at CHM"?

Google is your friend:
http://www.decconnection.org/computermuseum.pdf
--
David Biddulph

On Jul 29, 11:49*am, vaxorcist wrote:
> On Jul 28, 7:18 pm, Rich Jordan wrote:
>
> > Do you know the timeframe for those releases? *The oldest I have here
> > on hand is the November 1992 CONDOC kit and it covers Rdb V4.1. *I
> > _might_ have a few older ones but only going back a year or two more,
> > in storage. *As in its a pain in the rear to get at them and I won't
> > try if the 2.x or 3.x availability dates are before early 1990...
>
> > Rich
>
> RDB/VAX V2.3 release date is 9/87 (the last RDB version to work under
> VMS V4.x).
> But nevertheless thanks for considering to dig out old manuals ...
>
> Regards,
>
> Ulli

Ulli,
sorry, but that is definitely earlier than anything I have in
storage. I have one or two of the kits that DEC sent out in plastic
CD folders (looked like floppy disk cases) before they moved to the
early pasteboard folders but I think they're from late '89 at the
absolute earliest.

Actually those may be more accessible since they didn't fit in
the box with the pasteboard ones. I'll check if I can.

Rich