Optimizing Application Purformance

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  #1  
Old 08-27-2008, 10:28 PM
Default Optimizing Application Purformance

Hi,

First post here and let me say up front that I am completely and utterly
ignorant about SQL servers. I don't know what one is and I didn't even know
that I had one until I was browsing around in my Microsoft Office Accounting
08 Application. So if you can be helpful then also be gentle.

For the last week or so the OA application has been brutally slow. It is
slow to load and slow in performing the different processes (e.g.,
invoicing, bill paying, etc.) Beginning yesteday it would sometimes
complete hang up and report "Not responding." With the exception of have
intermittent bouts of slow internet service, I am not have similiar
performance issues with other applications.

I posted my symptoms on the MS Small Business Accounting group but got no
responses so I started digging around and stumbled on this thing called SQL
Server. I am wondering if this beast could be the cause of my problem and
how I might troubleshoot and fix it.

Thank you.





--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


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  #2  
Old 08-27-2008, 11:20 PM
Default Re: Optimizing Application Purformance

In all candour, you should look for a local SQL Server DBA who can come in
and troubleshoot this. It will take quite a few iterations to narrow things
down via this forum. A trained DBA should be able to define localize the
problem in short order.

--
Tom

----------------------------------------------------
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
news:Oakiv1KCJHA.528-at-TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Hi,

First post here and let me say up front that I am completely and utterly
ignorant about SQL servers. I don't know what one is and I didn't even know
that I had one until I was browsing around in my Microsoft Office Accounting
08 Application. So if you can be helpful then also be gentle.

For the last week or so the OA application has been brutally slow. It is
slow to load and slow in performing the different processes (e.g.,
invoicing, bill paying, etc.) Beginning yesteday it would sometimes
complete hang up and report "Not responding." With the exception of have
intermittent bouts of slow internet service, I am not have similiar
performance issues with other applications.

I posted my symptoms on the MS Small Business Accounting group but got no
responses so I started digging around and stumbled on this thing called SQL
Server. I am wondering if this beast could be the cause of my problem and
how I might troubleshoot and fix it.

Thank you.





--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


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  #3  
Old 08-28-2008, 12:57 AM
Default Re: Optimizing Application Purformance

Tom,

Thanks for your candor. I live in a very remote part of western North
Carolina and I would wager that there isn't a trained SQL DBA with 75 miles
of here ;-).

If you or anyone else is game for the iterations then so am I.



--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
"Tom Moreau" wrote in message
news:eNVFETLCJHA.5656-at-TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> In all candour, you should look for a local SQL Server DBA who can come
> in
> and troubleshoot this. It will take quite a few iterations to narrow
> things
> down via this forum. A trained DBA should be able to define localize the
> problem in short order.
>
> --
> Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
>
> "Greg Maxey" wrote in message
> news:Oakiv1KCJHA.528-at-TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> First post here and let me say up front that I am completely and utterly
> ignorant about SQL servers. I don't know what one is and I didn't even
> know
> that I had one until I was browsing around in my Microsoft Office
> Accounting
> 08 Application. So if you can be helpful then also be gentle.
>
> For the last week or so the OA application has been brutally slow. It is
> slow to load and slow in performing the different processes (e.g.,
> invoicing, bill paying, etc.) Beginning yesteday it would sometimes
> complete hang up and report "Not responding." With the exception of have
> intermittent bouts of slow internet service, I am not have similiar
> performance issues with other applications.
>
> I posted my symptoms on the MS Small Business Accounting group but got no
> responses so I started digging around and stumbled on this thing called
> SQL
> Server. I am wondering if this beast could be the cause of my problem and
> how I might troubleshoot and fix it.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Greg Maxey - Word MVP
>
> My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>
>



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  #4  
Old 08-28-2008, 08:10 AM
Default Re: Optimizing Application Purformance

Ouch! Well, if you can't contract someone to look at it via remote access,
then it will take some time here. Some thoughts:

1) You may have disk problems, e.g. a failed disk in a RAID 5 array.
2) Indexes need rebuilding
3) Store proc needs recompiling
4) Badly written app
5) etc.

What happens when you start and stop SQL Server? Does the problem co away?

--
Tom

----------------------------------------------------
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
news:%23e2%23fIMCJHA.1228-at-TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Tom,

Thanks for your candor. I live in a very remote part of western North
Carolina and I would wager that there isn't a trained SQL DBA with 75 miles
of here ;-).

If you or anyone else is game for the iterations then so am I.



--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
"Tom Moreau" wrote in message
news:eNVFETLCJHA.5656-at-TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> In all candour, you should look for a local SQL Server DBA who can come
> in
> and troubleshoot this. It will take quite a few iterations to narrow
> things
> down via this forum. A trained DBA should be able to define localize the
> problem in short order.
>
> --
> Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
>
> "Greg Maxey" wrote in message
> news:Oakiv1KCJHA.528-at-TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> First post here and let me say up front that I am completely and utterly
> ignorant about SQL servers. I don't know what one is and I didn't even
> know
> that I had one until I was browsing around in my Microsoft Office
> Accounting
> 08 Application. So if you can be helpful then also be gentle.
>
> For the last week or so the OA application has been brutally slow. It is
> slow to load and slow in performing the different processes (e.g.,
> invoicing, bill paying, etc.) Beginning yesteday it would sometimes
> complete hang up and report "Not responding." With the exception of have
> intermittent bouts of slow internet service, I am not have similiar
> performance issues with other applications.
>
> I posted my symptoms on the MS Small Business Accounting group but got no
> responses so I started digging around and stumbled on this thing called
> SQL
> Server. I am wondering if this beast could be the cause of my problem and
> how I might troubleshoot and fix it.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Greg Maxey - Word MVP
>
> My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>
>



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  #5  
Old 08-28-2008, 08:31 AM
Default Re: Optimizing Application Purformance

I would check to see how much memory SQL Server is using. Chances are you
are not using more than 2GB for SQL Server so you can do a quick and dirty
way of looking at task manager. You might need to set the MAX Memory to
allow room for other apps running on that server.

--
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
Solid Quality Mentors


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
news:Oakiv1KCJHA.528-at-TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> First post here and let me say up front that I am completely and utterly
> ignorant about SQL servers. I don't know what one is and I didn't even
> know that I had one until I was browsing around in my Microsoft Office
> Accounting 08 Application. So if you can be helpful then also be gentle.
>
> For the last week or so the OA application has been brutally slow. It is
> slow to load and slow in performing the different processes (e.g.,
> invoicing, bill paying, etc.) Beginning yesteday it would sometimes
> complete hang up and report "Not responding." With the exception of have
> intermittent bouts of slow internet service, I am not have similiar
> performance issues with other applications.
>
> I posted my symptoms on the MS Small Business Accounting group but got no
> responses so I started digging around and stumbled on this thing called
> SQL Server. I am wondering if this beast could be the cause of my problem
> and how I might troubleshoot and fix it.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Greg Maxey - Word MVP
>
> My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>


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  #6  
Old 08-28-2008, 09:37 AM
Default Re: Optimizing Application Purformance

Tom,

I am with you (as we both can be) for the long haul but the haul has to
start at the very, very beginning.

1. I don't know how to check for a disk problem. I did Disk Defragment
with no problems reportd.
2. Don't know what an indes is or how to rebuild it.
3. Don't know what Store proc is or how to recompile it.
4. The application was written by Microsoft if that helps.

I do not know how to start and stop the SQL Server.

I can say that the issues are most pronounced when I first start the
appliationn. Very slow to load and slow to respond. Seems to get better
the more I use it.

Thanks for what time and effort you are willing to spend with me on this. I
am sure that you are like me and can't spend all day sitting at a PC so
there could be long breaks between replies. I understand.

Greg

Tom Moreau wrote:
> Ouch! Well, if you can't contract someone to look at it via remote
> access, then it will take some time here. Some thoughts:
>
> 1) You may have disk problems, e.g. a failed disk in a RAID 5
> array. 2) Indexes need rebuilding
> 3) Store proc needs recompiling
> 4) Badly written app
> 5) etc.
>
> What happens when you start and stop SQL Server? Does the problem co
> away?
>
> --
> Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
>
> "Greg Maxey" wrote in
> message news:%23e2%23fIMCJHA.1228-at-TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Tom,
>
> Thanks for your candor. I live in a very remote part of western North
> Carolina and I would wager that there isn't a trained SQL DBA with 75
> miles of here ;-).
>
> If you or anyone else is game for the iterations then so am I.
>
>
>
>
> My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> "Tom Moreau" wrote in message
> news:eNVFETLCJHA.5656-at-TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> In all candour, you should look for a local SQL Server DBA who can
>> come in
>> and troubleshoot this. It will take quite a few iterations to narrow
>> things
>> down via this forum. A trained DBA should be able to define
>> localize the problem in short order.
>>
>> --
>> Tom
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
>> SQL Server MVP
>> Toronto, ON Canada
>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>>
>>
>> "Greg Maxey" wrote in
>> message news:Oakiv1KCJHA.528-at-TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> First post here and let me say up front that I am completely and
>> utterly ignorant about SQL servers. I don't know what one is and I
>> didn't even know
>> that I had one until I was browsing around in my Microsoft Office
>> Accounting
>> 08 Application. So if you can be helpful then also be gentle.
>>
>> For the last week or so the OA application has been brutally slow.
>> It is slow to load and slow in performing the different processes
>> (e.g., invoicing, bill paying, etc.) Beginning yesteday it would
>> sometimes complete hang up and report "Not responding." With the
>> exception of have intermittent bouts of slow internet service, I am
>> not have similiar performance issues with other applications.
>>
>> I posted my symptoms on the MS Small Business Accounting group but
>> got no responses so I started digging around and stumbled on this
>> thing called SQL
>> Server. I am wondering if this beast could be the cause of my
>> problem and how I might troubleshoot and fix it.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Greg Maxey - Word MVP
>>
>> My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


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  #7  
Old 08-28-2008, 09:37 AM
Default Re: Optimizing Application Purformance

Andrew,

Thanks. You are way over my head. I am willing to try what you suggest but
I don't know where to begin.


Andrew J. Kelly wrote:
> I would check to see how much memory SQL Server is using. Chances are
> you are not using more than 2GB for SQL Server so you can do a quick
> and dirty way of looking at task manager. You might need to set the
> MAX Memory to allow room for other apps running on that server.
>
>
> "Greg Maxey" wrote in
> message news:Oakiv1KCJHA.528-at-TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> First post here and let me say up front that I am completely and
>> utterly ignorant about SQL servers. I don't know what one is and I
>> didn't even know that I had one until I was browsing around in my
>> Microsoft Office Accounting 08 Application. So if you can be
>> helpful then also be gentle. For the last week or so the OA application
>> has been brutally slow. It is slow to load and slow in performing the
>> different processes
>> (e.g., invoicing, bill paying, etc.) Beginning yesteday it would
>> sometimes complete hang up and report "Not responding." With the
>> exception of have intermittent bouts of slow internet service, I am
>> not have similiar performance issues with other applications.
>>
>> I posted my symptoms on the MS Small Business Accounting group but
>> got no responses so I started digging around and stumbled on this
>> thing called SQL Server. I am wondering if this beast could be the
>> cause of my problem and how I might troubleshoot and fix it.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Greg Maxey - Word MVP
>>
>> My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


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  #8  
Old 08-28-2008, 10:10 AM
Default Re: Optimizing Application Purformance

1) Get the Microsoft Office Accounting tech support people on the phone and
describe your situation and have the purveyors of the package help you.

2) Whether or not you do 1 above, you simply MUST get a dedicated resource
to help you. Remote is doable only if you have someone there that can set
up a VPN so a person can connect into your network and do stuff directly on
your server. I would venture a guess that your accounting package is pretty
critical to the running of the company and not only must it perform
adequately but it must also be secured and backed up properly as well.
Someone must do this and it can't be you due to lack of skills/training
therefore it must be someone from outside the company. I don't know your
company's size or revenue but you may want to consider an arrangement with
one of the remote database management companies. Or just engage a
consultant on a part-time hourly basis to get things under control and set
up backup/maintenance stuff and then simply respond as needed.


--
Kevin G. Boles
Indicium Resources, Inc.
SQL Server MVP
kgboles a earthlink dt net


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
news:Oakiv1KCJHA.528-at-TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> First post here and let me say up front that I am completely and utterly
> ignorant about SQL servers. I don't know what one is and I didn't even
> know that I had one until I was browsing around in my Microsoft Office
> Accounting 08 Application. So if you can be helpful then also be gentle.
>
> For the last week or so the OA application has been brutally slow. It is
> slow to load and slow in performing the different processes (e.g.,
> invoicing, bill paying, etc.) Beginning yesteday it would sometimes
> complete hang up and report "Not responding." With the exception of have
> intermittent bouts of slow internet service, I am not have similiar
> performance issues with other applications.
>
> I posted my symptoms on the MS Small Business Accounting group but got no
> responses so I started digging around and stumbled on this thing called
> SQL Server. I am wondering if this beast could be the cause of my problem
> and how I might troubleshoot and fix it.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Greg Maxey - Word MVP
>
> My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>



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  #9  
Old 08-28-2008, 10:17 AM
Default Re: Optimizing Application Purformance

OK, if it is slow at first, but improves over time, this is normal. SQL
Server uses memory as data cache. SQL never reads data from disk directly.
Rather, it pulls the data from disk and places it into data cache. It reads
it from there. If it is already there, it does not need to get it from
disk. When SQL Server is started, data cache is purged. Therefore, it has
to go to disk to get it - and that takes time. Once the data cache has data
in it, you should start to see improved performance.

SQL Server loves memory. The more memory it has, the more data it can put
into cache. If it runs out of cache, it purges data from cache based on
which was least recently used.

As for the application, it is possible that the app does something similar
when you fire it up. For example, it could fire off a bunch of queries and
once they have completed, it refers to the data in memory instead of having
to go back to SQL Server to get it.

As for disk, although defragging helps, it does not fix a problem with a
RAID array. If you are not a techie, you may need to open a support call
with Microsoft and have them look over your shoulder with Easy Assist.

--
Tom

----------------------------------------------------
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
news:uMutGrQCJHA.3484-at-TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Tom,

I am with you (as we both can be) for the long haul but the haul has to
start at the very, very beginning.

1. I don't know how to check for a disk problem. I did Disk Defragment
with no problems reportd.
2. Don't know what an indes is or how to rebuild it.
3. Don't know what Store proc is or how to recompile it.
4. The application was written by Microsoft if that helps.

I do not know how to start and stop the SQL Server.

I can say that the issues are most pronounced when I first start the
appliationn. Very slow to load and slow to respond. Seems to get better
the more I use it.

Thanks for what time and effort you are willing to spend with me on this. I
am sure that you are like me and can't spend all day sitting at a PC so
there could be long breaks between replies. I understand.

Greg

Tom Moreau wrote:
> Ouch! Well, if you can't contract someone to look at it via remote
> access, then it will take some time here. Some thoughts:
>
> 1) You may have disk problems, e.g. a failed disk in a RAID 5
> array. 2) Indexes need rebuilding
> 3) Store proc needs recompiling
> 4) Badly written app
> 5) etc.
>
> What happens when you start and stop SQL Server? Does the problem co
> away?
>
> --
> Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
>
> "Greg Maxey" wrote in
> message news:%23e2%23fIMCJHA.1228-at-TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Tom,
>
> Thanks for your candor. I live in a very remote part of western North
> Carolina and I would wager that there isn't a trained SQL DBA with 75
> miles of here ;-).
>
> If you or anyone else is game for the iterations then so am I.
>
>
>
>
> My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> "Tom Moreau" wrote in message
> news:eNVFETLCJHA.5656-at-TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> In all candour, you should look for a local SQL Server DBA who can
>> come in
>> and troubleshoot this. It will take quite a few iterations to narrow
>> things
>> down via this forum. A trained DBA should be able to define
>> localize the problem in short order.
>>
>> --
>> Tom
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
>> SQL Server MVP
>> Toronto, ON Canada
>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>>
>>
>> "Greg Maxey" wrote in
>> message news:Oakiv1KCJHA.528-at-TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> First post here and let me say up front that I am completely and
>> utterly ignorant about SQL servers. I don't know what one is and I
>> didn't even know
>> that I had one until I was browsing around in my Microsoft Office
>> Accounting
>> 08 Application. So if you can be helpful then also be gentle.
>>
>> For the last week or so the OA application has been brutally slow.
>> It is slow to load and slow in performing the different processes
>> (e.g., invoicing, bill paying, etc.) Beginning yesteday it would
>> sometimes complete hang up and report "Not responding." With the
>> exception of have intermittent bouts of slow internet service, I am
>> not have similiar performance issues with other applications.
>>
>> I posted my symptoms on the MS Small Business Accounting group but
>> got no responses so I started digging around and stumbled on this
>> thing called SQL
>> Server. I am wondering if this beast could be the cause of my
>> problem and how I might troubleshoot and fix it.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Greg Maxey - Word MVP
>>
>> My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


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  #10  
Old 08-28-2008, 06:22 PM
Default Re: Optimizing Application Purformance

Tom,

Thanks.

I suppose this will be a summary reply to everyone nice enough to offer
their assistance. The company is very small. So small that it certainly
can't afford database managers or consultants on an hourly basis. I
certainly don't have time try to get someone from Microsoft on the line. I
therefore understand that none of you have time to try to walk me through a
process that you would normally be paid to do.

I was hoping that it might be something simple. It isn't so I will live
with it until it quits working altogether and then do somthing else.

Thanks again.
--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
"Tom Moreau" wrote in message
news:%23aPCnBRCJHA.4340-at-TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> OK, if it is slow at first, but improves over time, this is normal. SQL
> Server uses memory as data cache. SQL never reads data from disk
> directly.
> Rather, it pulls the data from disk and places it into data cache. It
> reads
> it from there. If it is already there, it does not need to get it from
> disk. When SQL Server is started, data cache is purged. Therefore, it
> has
> to go to disk to get it - and that takes time. Once the data cache has
> data
> in it, you should start to see improved performance.
>
> SQL Server loves memory. The more memory it has, the more data it can put
> into cache. If it runs out of cache, it purges data from cache based on
> which was least recently used.
>
> As for the application, it is possible that the app does something similar
> when you fire it up. For example, it could fire off a bunch of queries
> and
> once they have completed, it refers to the data in memory instead of
> having
> to go back to SQL Server to get it.
>
> As for disk, although defragging helps, it does not fix a problem with a
> RAID array. If you are not a techie, you may need to open a support call
> with Microsoft and have them look over your shoulder with Easy Assist.
>
> --
> Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
>
> "Greg Maxey" wrote in message
> news:uMutGrQCJHA.3484-at-TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Tom,
>
> I am with you (as we both can be) for the long haul but the haul has to
> start at the very, very beginning.
>
> 1. I don't know how to check for a disk problem. I did Disk Defragment
> with no problems reportd.
> 2. Don't know what an indes is or how to rebuild it.
> 3. Don't know what Store proc is or how to recompile it.
> 4. The application was written by Microsoft if that helps.
>
> I do not know how to start and stop the SQL Server.
>
> I can say that the issues are most pronounced when I first start the
> appliationn. Very slow to load and slow to respond. Seems to get better
> the more I use it.
>
> Thanks for what time and effort you are willing to spend with me on this.
> I
> am sure that you are like me and can't spend all day sitting at a PC so
> there could be long breaks between replies. I understand.
>
> Greg
>
> Tom Moreau wrote:
>> Ouch! Well, if you can't contract someone to look at it via remote
>> access, then it will take some time here. Some thoughts:
>>
>> 1) You may have disk problems, e.g. a failed disk in a RAID 5
>> array. 2) Indexes need rebuilding
>> 3) Store proc needs recompiling
>> 4) Badly written app
>> 5) etc.
>>
>> What happens when you start and stop SQL Server? Does the problem co
>> away?
>>
>> --
>> Tom
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
>> SQL Server MVP
>> Toronto, ON Canada
>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>>
>>
>> "Greg Maxey" wrote in
>> message news:%23e2%23fIMCJHA.1228-at-TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Tom,
>>
>> Thanks for your candor. I live in a very remote part of western North
>> Carolina and I would wager that there isn't a trained SQL DBA with 75
>> miles of here ;-).
>>
>> If you or anyone else is game for the iterations then so am I.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>> "Tom Moreau" wrote in message
>> news:eNVFETLCJHA.5656-at-TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> In all candour, you should look for a local SQL Server DBA who can
>>> come in
>>> and troubleshoot this. It will take quite a few iterations to narrow
>>> things
>>> down via this forum. A trained DBA should be able to define
>>> localize the problem in short order.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
>>> SQL Server MVP
>>> Toronto, ON Canada
>>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>>>
>>>
>>> "Greg Maxey" wrote in
>>> message news:Oakiv1KCJHA.528-at-TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> First post here and let me say up front that I am completely and
>>> utterly ignorant about SQL servers. I don't know what one is and I
>>> didn't even know
>>> that I had one until I was browsing around in my Microsoft Office
>>> Accounting
>>> 08 Application. So if you can be helpful then also be gentle.
>>>
>>> For the last week or so the OA application has been brutally slow.
>>> It is slow to load and slow in performing the different processes
>>> (e.g., invoicing, bill paying, etc.) Beginning yesteday it would
>>> sometimes complete hang up and report "Not responding." With the
>>> exception of have intermittent bouts of slow internet service, I am
>>> not have similiar performance issues with other applications.
>>>
>>> I posted my symptoms on the MS Small Business Accounting group but
>>> got no responses so I started digging around and stumbled on this
>>> thing called SQL
>>> Server. I am wondering if this beast could be the cause of my
>>> problem and how I might troubleshoot and fix it.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Greg Maxey - Word MVP
>>>
>>> My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org

>
> --
> Greg Maxey - Word MVP
>
> My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>
>



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