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| "--CELKO--" news:3a4b59d4-f724-4830-bb86-9ea4a92a3179-at-v57g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>> Thanks ever so much for your contribution. I have spent some >>> considerable time trying to find a whiff of a hint of a germ of >>> anything useful in it that helps to resolve my original question, and >>> failed. << > > All I asked was basic netiquette and pointed out that your design as > described by narrative rather than DDL, has fundamental flaws. > And then, by your own admission, you posted code with errors in it!! > No. The error I made (stupid, admittedly) was to test the procedure with a parameter value that was invalid in my particular context. >>> Fortunately, Eric helped me see the error of my ways a few days ago. << > > As Steve pointed out, what you got was dangerous proprietary Kludge. I took on board Steve's post, and Eric's reply to it. > >>> If, in any future questions I might ask here, my code doesn't follow >>> your preferred standards, I apologize, but please feel free to totally >>> ignore my posts if that that helps you. << > > What I tried to teach you was *basic netiquette* But *you* failed to quote what you were responding to. That's also basic netiquette. > and ISO standards. > Also, a little about proper data modeling. Those things *are* my > preferred standards, but they are also the preferred standards of this > industry. If you would like to work in it, you might want to learn > about them. Please don't assume that everyone who asks for help here is a budding DBA. I, for one, am not. I usually have access to a bunch of very good SQL people who work with me, but was on leave when I needed a quick answer to something which is purely a personal project of mine. I do not work with SQL every day, nor will I. > > You might want to consider that I helped write the Standards for SQL > and you are the guy who had to look up COALESCE(). Or you can keep > trolling newsgroups for kludges instead of using them to learn your > trade. I know exactly who you are, Joe. And what you are all about. I ackowledge that you are a very clever person, and have an awful lot invested in the standards personally. Perhaps you might want to consider that I am not what you assumed. All I need is to be able to get something done with a technology I only have a passing need to use or know, and to understand it so I can maintain it occasionally. My code will never be up for review by anyone, or be seen by anyone (unless I am dead, in which case I don't care what they think of it). I don't have time to learn all the standards, nor the need. It's *not* my trade. |
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| Bravo! "shuurai11-at-gmail.com" news:44dc237f-c46a-4d8a-b07d-237de7d23796-at-f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com: > > What I tried to teach you was *basic netiquette* and ISO standards. > > > Since you have apparantly decided to take on the role of keeper of > basic netiquette, can we assume that from now on you will: > > - Treat people with some respect instead of being arrogant and rude > to everyone. > > - Actually post responses that are relevant to what they're asking - > ex. when someone asks about how to do a join, you won't go into a > three paragraph rant on how bad their table and column names are. > > - Actually try your code before hitting send to ensure that it runs, > and that it runs on SQL Server. > > - Stop selectively adhering to standards. > > - Stop posting advice that has been clearly demonstrated as horribly > inefficient - ex. the "thousands of parameters" argument. > > - Stop telling people that they're going to be thrown in jail for > violating various laws despite not actually knowing if their databases > are subject to those laws. > > - Stop shamelessly pimping your books at every opportunity. > > I for one look forward to seeing the "new" Celko. |
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