Guy Macon on Microsoft's claims of Linux Patent Infringement

This is a discussion on Guy Macon on Microsoft's claims of Linux Patent Infringement within the Unix and OS Discussions forums in Database and Unix Discussions category; Floyd L. Davidson wrote: >Fuddie wrote: >> >>Prior art is not really a defense. Let's take the Eolas case, for >>instance. Despite having ample evidence of prior art, including the >>creator of the Viola browser (Pei Wei) willing to testify as to prior art, >>Microsoft still lost the case. > >You are mistaken. Microsoft and others presented the US >Patent and Trademark Office with what they *claimed* was >prior art. On full re-examination the USPTO determined >that the claimed prior art was not the same as the >invention the Eolas patent covered, and re-issued the >patent. > >If Microsoft had ...

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Old 06-12-2007, 09:37 AM
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Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

>Fuddie wrote:
>>
>>Prior art is not really a defense. Let's take the Eolas case, for
>>instance. Despite having ample evidence of prior art, including the
>>creator of the Viola browser (Pei Wei) willing to testify as to prior art,
>>Microsoft still lost the case.

>
>You are mistaken. Microsoft and others presented the US
>Patent and Trademark Office with what they *claimed* was
>prior art. On full re-examination the USPTO determined
>that the claimed prior art was not the same as the
>invention the Eolas patent covered, and re-issued the
>patent.
>
>If Microsoft had indeed presented "ample evidence of
>prior art", they would have won.


Don't expect Fuddie Funkentroll to do anything but take the Micro$haft
side of the issue, no matter how ludicrous...

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  #12  
Old 06-12-2007, 09:38 AM
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Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

>They don't *WANT* to sue anyone.


Whatever, Fuddie. Microshaft does not *WANT* to do anything that will
not maintain and/or extend their monopoly.

If they think that lawsuits, or the threat of lawsuits, will do that,
then they will.

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Old 06-12-2007, 02:22 PM
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Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

>Now, if you can't come up with a more honest response
>than that one, I will not continue this type of
>discussion. I don't mind teaching you, but I do mind
>correcting obviously dishonest statements. If you
>didn't know, that would be different, but you continue
>to say things that you *clearly* know are false.


Erik is a dishonest, immoral ****.

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  #14  
Old 06-12-2007, 03:32 PM
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On 2007-06-12, chrisv wrote:
> Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
>
>>Now, if you can't come up with a more honest response
>>than that one, I will not continue this type of
>>discussion. I don't mind teaching you, but I do mind
>>correcting obviously dishonest statements. If you
>>didn't know, that would be different, but you continue
>>to say things that you *clearly* know are false.

>
> Erik is a dishonest, immoral ****.


And chrisv comments without having read the thread, as usual.
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:41 PM
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chrisv wrote:
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
>>They don't *WANT* to sue anyone.

>
> Whatever, Fuddie. Microshaft does not *WANT* to do anything that will
> not maintain and/or extend their monopoly.
>
> If they think that lawsuits, or the threat of lawsuits, will do that,
> then they will.
>


MS pretty much has to not sue anyone now. If they threaten someone with
a suit, without telling them exactly what patents MS claims are being
infringed, it becomes extortion, and they can be charged with that. It's
basically extortion now, but there's enough wiggle room that they are
unlikely to be charged, if they don't actually threated suit.

It's a scumbag move in either case. But it's borderline legal while they
don't actually threaten to sue.


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Old 06-12-2007, 04:43 PM
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Tim Smith wrote:
>On 2007-06-12, chrisv wrote:
>> Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
>>
>>>Now, if you can't come up with a more honest response
>>>than that one, I will not continue this type of
>>>discussion. I don't mind teaching you, but I do mind
>>>correcting obviously dishonest statements. If you
>>>didn't know, that would be different, but you continue
>>>to say things that you *clearly* know are false.

>>
>> Erik is a dishonest, immoral ****.

>
>And chrisv comments without having read the thread, as usual.


I don't want to encourage that tone of response; however,
it does appear that he did read it. Did you?

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  #17  
Old 06-12-2007, 05:23 PM
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>Tim Smith wrote:
>>
>>And chrisv comments without having read the thread, as usual.


On what basis do you make that claim, Timmy?

Perhaps, in your putrid little rat-brain, you feel that anyone who
does not side with Micro**** cannot be properly informed.

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  #18  
Old 06-12-2007, 10:04 PM
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Verily I say unto thee, that chrisv spake thusly:
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
>> They don't *WANT* to sue anyone.


As in "I don't *WANT* to shoot you, honest, but if you don't put the
money in the brown bag then I'll be forced to pull the trigger."?

> Whatever, Fuddie. Microshaft does not *WANT* to do anything that will
> not maintain and/or extend their monopoly.
>
> If they think that lawsuits, or the threat of lawsuits, will do that,
> then they will.


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Old 06-12-2007, 10:09 PM
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Verily I say unto thee, that Floyd L. Davidson spake thusly:
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

[his usual spin and lies]

> Now, if you can't come up with a more honest response
> than that one, I will not continue this type of
> discussion.


You're wasting your time with FUDenbusch. He'd argue black is white for
the sake of der Führer Herr Ballmer and his bunch of reprobate goons.

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  #20  
Old 06-13-2007, 12:41 AM
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chrisv wrote:
>
>>Tim Smith wrote:
>>
>>>And chrisv comments without having read the thread, as usual.

>
>On what basis do you make that claim, Timmy?
>
>Perhaps, in your putrid little rat-brain, you feel that anyone who
>does not side with Micro**** cannot be properly informed.


Any chance I can convince the two of you to move the flamewar
over to it's own thread and leave this one for discussing
Microsoft's claims of Linux Patent Infringement?

I would really appreciate it if you would do that.

Guy Macon


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