cd burning software for Solaris 10 SPARC

In article , Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

>> Cdrw started in 2001 and did never catch up with cdrecord.
>
>Although I think cdrecord _is_ more advanced than cdrw you, as author
>of cdrecord, always will say cdrecord is better ;-)
>
>That might be true, but for just plain burning of my CD's and DVD's
>(ISO files) I always use "cdrw -i file.iso" and never have errors. All
>is taken care off. Fnding my drive, the right speed, all's OK. Never a
>bad CD/DVD either. So what's wrong with cdrw? Is does a pretty good
>job without the need of scsi emulation. I never liked it for my IDE
>burners. Cdrw doesn't need it. why should cdrecord insist on using it?

cdrw never prints error messages.

cdrw is harder to use than cdrecord (just call "cdrecord filename"
or "cdrecord -v filename").

cdrecord supports more writers than cdrw.

cdrw does not support the better SAO write mode.

cdrw does not support many things people would like to see.

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js-at-cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) writes:

> cdrw never prints error messages.
True. I can live with that if the work is done well.

> cdrw is harder to use than cdrecord (just call "cdrecord filename"
> or "cdrecord -v filename").
Not always true. Maybe after setting the config file ;-)

> cdrecord supports more writers than cdrw.
Wouldn't know

> cdrw does not support the better SAO write mode.
Strong argument

> cdrw does not support many things people would like to see.
Vague.

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In article , Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
>js-at-cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) writes:
>
>> Most users _believe_ that it works because it never prints error messages.
>
>A childish reaction.. unworthy of your qualities.
>
>I believe that it works because my CD/DVD's just work.

A childish reaction from you :-(

I did get reports from people who did not see an error message from
cdrw (because it does not check SCSI error codes) and then had a coaster
without being warned.

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URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> In article <5db6baF33kgheU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Ian Collins wrote:
>
>>Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>
>>>In article <5d89d4F33ghjcU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>>Frank Langelage wrote:
>>>
>>>>george.jones-at-gdc4s.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have an Ultra 10 (440MHz/1GB RAM/20GB) running Solaris 10 and just
>>>>>replaced the CDROM with a CDRW drive. What burning software is
>>>>>available for it, or is there any at all. I'd like to be able to back
>>>>>up my work to CD.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>man cdrw
>>>
>>>Why do you recommend a program that hast been written after a better program
>>>did exist for a long time?
>>>
>>
>>Probably for most users, it "just works".
>
>
> Most users _believe_ that it works because it never prints error messages.
>

If the CD or DVD produced works, error messages are not relevant. If
the CD doesn't work, people will try a different brand of blanks, a
different command line, a different program, etc, until they get a
usable CD.

If I ever need to burn a CD from Solaris, I'll try cdrw. If it doesn't
work, I'll find a copy of cdrecord and try that. If that doesn't work,
I'll do my burning on my PC with Roxio!

In article , Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
>js-at-cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) writes:
>
>> cdrw never prints error messages.
>True. I can live with that if the work is done well.
>
>> cdrw is harder to use than cdrecord (just call "cdrecord filename"
>> or "cdrecord -v filename").
>Not always true. Maybe after setting the config file ;-)

Try to inform yourself before writing........

cdrecord -inq
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a20 (i386-pc-solaris2.11) Copyright (C) 1995-2006
Jörg Schilling
Warning: Using USCSI interface.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
No target specified, trying to find one...
Using dev=1,0,0.
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities :
Vendor_info : 'PLEXTOR '
Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-755A '
Revision : '1.06'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM.

If no dev= option is specified, cdrecord scans SCSI for a single drive
in the system......

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In article <46706D68.3010400@comcast.net>,
Richard B. Gilbert wrote:

>> Most users _believe_ that it works because it never prints error messages.
>>
>
>If the CD or DVD produced works, error messages are not relevant. If
>the CD doesn't work, people will try a different brand of blanks, a
>different command line, a different program, etc, until they get a
>usable CD.

If you need to check each medium written by cdrw to check whether is works,
it is easier to use cdrecord that checks for SCSI problems and prints error
messages.

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URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

In article <5db8nhF33bhg0U1@mid.dfncis.de>,
js-at-cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) wrote:

> In article , Dick Hoogendijk
> wrote:
> >js-at-cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) writes:
> >
> >> Most users _believe_ that it works because it never prints error messages.
> >
> >A childish reaction.. unworthy of your qualities.
> >
> >I believe that it works because my CD/DVD's just work.
>
> A childish reaction from you :-(
>
> I did get reports from people who did not see an error message from
> cdrw (because it does not check SCSI error codes) and then had a coaster
> without being warned.

Because I couldn't get it (or anything else you've written to run, e.g.
star) to run on MacOS X. The weird make you use just doesn't work on my
system. I suppose you'll point to my system as the problem. That's
your option. I figure you're "doing your own thing" and don't bother
with stuff you've written.

Then there's the 'tude you seem to have in all you posts. I understand
being attached to your code like it was a child, but man, it's time to
get a life!

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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> In article <5db6baF33kgheU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Ian Collins wrote:
>> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>> In article <5d89d4F33ghjcU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Frank Langelage wrote:
>>>> george.jones-at-gdc4s.com wrote:
>>>>> I have an Ultra 10 (440MHz/1GB RAM/20GB) running Solaris 10 and just
>>>>> replaced the CDROM with a CDRW drive. What burning software is
>>>>> available for it, or is there any at all. I'd like to be able to back
>>>>> up my work to CD.
>>>>>
>>>> man cdrw
>>> Why do you recommend a program that hast been written after a better program
>>> did exist for a long time?
>>>
>> Probably for most users, it "just works".
>
> Most users _believe_ that it works because it never prints error messages.
>
Fair point, I just stick the same brand of blanks. I used cdrw because
it was there in Solaris 9.

Maybe I should revisit cdrecord. I tend to use the Gnome GUI for
burning these days, which uses cdrecord, so I guess I have!

--
Ian Collins.

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> In article , Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
>
>>js-at-cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) writes:
>>
>>
>>>cdrw never prints error messages.
>>
>>True. I can live with that if the work is done well.
>>
>>
>>>cdrw is harder to use than cdrecord (just call "cdrecord filename"
>>>or "cdrecord -v filename").
>>
>>Not always true. Maybe after setting the config file ;-)
>
>
> Try to inform yourself before writing........
>
> cdrecord -inq
> Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a20 (i386-pc-solaris2.11) Copyright (C) 1995-2006
> Jörg Schilling
> Warning: Using USCSI interface.
> Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
> No target specified, trying to find one...
> Using dev=1,0,0.
> Device type : Removable CD-ROM
> Version : 0
> Response Format: 2
> Capabilities :
> Vendor_info : 'PLEXTOR '
> Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-755A '
> Revision : '1.06'
> Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM.
>
> If no dev= option is specified, cdrecord scans SCSI for a single drive
> in the system......
>

And if the box is all IDE? Say a Sun Ultra 10?

js-at-cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) writes:

> Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
> >A childish reaction.. unworthy of your qualities.
> I believe that it works because my CD/DVD's just work.
>
> A childish reaction from you :-(
>
> I did get reports from people who did not see an error message from
> cdrw (because it does not check SCSI error codes) and then had a
> coaster without being warned.

I ment to say you could elaborate more on the subject of why cdrecord
is so much better then cdrw. Not just write a oneliner. In later msgs
you do give more information, but also you leave a lot out.

Nowhere do you say something about IDE writers. It's always scsi. I
f.i. like the fact that cdrw does _not_ use/need scsi (emulation).

Again: cdrecord is a very good program, but the world is large enough
to have space for other progams that can also do a good job.
Cdrw never gave me a toaster (yet). So why should I be displeased with
it? Cdrw is good. Cdrecord might be better, or maybe I should say,
more advanced. I feel it's not worthy of you to show an attitude that
reminds me a little of that of the author of QMail. It's not that bad
to write some good things on other programs like yours. Is it?

(I apologize for the word "childish" btw)

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