Sun CEO to Torvalds: Let's work together, Torvalds: Solaris could nudge Linux to GPL 3

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:00:00 +0100, Kier wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:24:44 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:
>>
>>> Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer Solaris,
>>> that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit you.
>>
>> Agreed so far.
>>
>>> There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.
>>
>> I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
>> technical arguments).
>
>Why should I?

To inform the conversation, maybe? Sorry, that was silly of me...

Bill
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:41:37 -0700, Frank Cusack wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:00:00 +0100 Kier wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:24:44 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:
>>>
>>>> Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer Solaris,
>>>> that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit you.
>>>
>>> Agreed so far.
>>>
>>>> There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.
>>>
>>> I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
>>> technical arguments).
>>
>> Why should I?
>
> Wow, you should run for national political office.

No thanks.

The 'why should I' referred to the part which reads: (stick to technical
arguments), BTW, in case you failed to work that out.

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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:44:59 -0700, Bill Waddington wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:00:00 +0100, Kier wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:24:44 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:
>>>
>>>> Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer Solaris,
>>>> that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit you.
>>>
>>> Agreed so far.
>>>
>>>> There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.
>>>
>>> I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
>>> technical arguments).
>>
>>Why should I?
>
> To inform the conversation, maybe? Sorry, that was silly of me...
>

Why should technical merit be the only criteria? That was my point.

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Kier wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:44:59 -0700, Bill Waddington wrote:
>
>
>>On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:00:00 +0100, Kier wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:24:44 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer Solaris,
>>>>>that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit you.
>>>>
>>>>Agreed so far.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.
>>>>
>>>>I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
>>>>technical arguments).
>>>
>>>Why should I?
>>
>>To inform the conversation, maybe? Sorry, that was silly of me...
>>
>
>
> Why should technical merit be the only criteria? That was my point.
>

Is there some other criterion you believe is applicable?

In comp.unix.solaris Kier wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:34:42 -0400, Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
>
>>
>> "Rich Teer" wrote in message
>> news:Pine.SOL.4.64.0706140922500.21332-at-marrakesh.. .
>>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:
>>>
>>>> Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer Solaris,
>>>> that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit you.
>>>
>>> Agreed so far.
>>>
>>>> There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.
>>>
>>> I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
>>> technical arguments).
>>
>> To these clowns "better" means cheaper. Since lienux is free it's infinitely
>> better than anything that costs more than a dollar.
>
> Don't do dollars. Don't do lienux, either. Niever herad of it, in fact.
> Did you make it up like you make up all your tripe?
>
>>
>> Technically Solaris blows the doors off of lienux. The only drawbacks are
>> limited device support and Solaris requires decent hardware to run well.
>> Most of these lienux guys pride themselves on running some lightweight
>> distro on a 350Mhz Pentium II that they pulled out of a dumpster. They're
>> too cheap to spend money on hardware too.
>
> Well, you just blew yourself right out of the water there, pal, because I
> recently spend the best part of two thousand pounds on computer equipment,
> all to run Linux on.
>

2000 pounds?

What series of HP, SUN or IBM is it again?

In comp.unix.solaris Kier wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:44:59 -0700, Bill Waddington wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:00:00 +0100, Kier wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:24:44 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer Solaris,
>>>>> that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit you.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed so far.
>>>>
>>>>> There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
>>>> technical arguments).
>>>
>>>Why should I?
>>
>> To inform the conversation, maybe? Sorry, that was silly of me...
>>
>
> Why should technical merit be the only criteria? That was my point.

I think this guy is giving up on the techincal merits because he can't
think of any. What an idiot.

"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message
news:f4s3c5$1ru$2-at-reader2.panix.com...
> In comp.unix.solaris Kier wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:34:42 -0400, Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Rich Teer" wrote in message
>>> news:Pine.SOL.4.64.0706140922500.21332-at-marrakesh.. .
>>>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer
>>>>> Solaris,
>>>>> that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit
>>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed so far.
>>>>
>>>>> There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
>>>> technical arguments).
>>>
>>> To these clowns "better" means cheaper. Since lienux is free it's
>>> infinitely
>>> better than anything that costs more than a dollar.
>>
>> Don't do dollars. Don't do lienux, either. Niever herad of it, in fact.
>> Did you make it up like you make up all your tripe?
>>
>>>
>>> Technically Solaris blows the doors off of lienux. The only drawbacks
>>> are
>>> limited device support and Solaris requires decent hardware to run well.
>>> Most of these lienux guys pride themselves on running some lightweight
>>> distro on a 350Mhz Pentium II that they pulled out of a dumpster.
>>> They're
>>> too cheap to spend money on hardware too.
>>
>> Well, you just blew yourself right out of the water there, pal, because I
>> recently spend the best part of two thousand pounds on computer
>> equipment,
>> all to run Linux on.
>>
>
> 2000 pounds?

That's 2000 pounds of empty bottles he found while dumpster diving for that
old 350Mhz Pentium II computer of his.

No way is any lintard about to part with 2000 pounds ($3950) of money for a
computer when they can find one that's "just as good" in the dumpster on a
rainy night.


> What series of HP, SUN or IBM is it again?

It's an old Packard Bell with 8-Megs of RAM. They don't make em like the
used to!

On 2007-06-14, Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
>
> "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message
> news:f4s3c5$1ru$2-at-reader2.panix.com...
>> In comp.unix.solaris Kier wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:34:42 -0400, Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Teer" wrote in message
>>>> news:Pine.SOL.4.64.0706140922500.21332-at-marrakesh.. .
>>>>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer
>>>>>> Solaris,
>>>>>> that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed so far.
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
>>>>> technical arguments).
>>>>
>>>> To these clowns "better" means cheaper. Since lienux is free it's
>>>> infinitely
>>>> better than anything that costs more than a dollar.
>>>
>>> Don't do dollars. Don't do lienux, either. Niever herad of it, in fact.
>>> Did you make it up like you make up all your tripe?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Technically Solaris blows the doors off of lienux. The only drawbacks
>>>> are
>>>> limited device support and Solaris requires decent hardware to run well.
>>>> Most of these lienux guys pride themselves on running some lightweight
>>>> distro on a 350Mhz Pentium II that they pulled out of a dumpster.
>>>> They're
>>>> too cheap to spend money on hardware too.
>>>
>>> Well, you just blew yourself right out of the water there, pal, because I
>>> recently spend the best part of two thousand pounds on computer
>>> equipment,
>>> all to run Linux on.
>>>
>>
>> 2000 pounds?
>
> That's 2000 pounds of empty bottles he found while dumpster diving for that
> old 350Mhz Pentium II computer of his.
>
> No way is any lintard about to part with 2000 pounds ($3950) of money for a
> computer when they can find one that's "just as good" in the dumpster on a
> rainy night.

That is proven incorrect by the receipt for the Alpha
machine I bought in 1999-2000. It was my first Linux
machine.

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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Dr. GroundAxe wrote:

> To these clowns "better" means cheaper. Since lienux is free it's infinitely
> better than anything that costs more than a dollar.

Solaris is also free. :-)

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Kier wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:34:42 -0400, Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
>
.... snip ...
>
>> Technically Solaris blows the doors off of lienux. The only
>> drawbacks are limited device support and Solaris requires decent
>> hardware to run well. Most of these lienux guys pride themselves
>> on running some lightweight distro on a 350Mhz Pentium II that
>> they pulled out of a dumpster. They're too cheap to spend money
>> on hardware too.
>
> Well, you just blew yourself right out of the water there, pal,
> because I recently spend the best part of two thousand pounds on
> computer equipment, all to run Linux on.

The point is you have a choice. For example, try spending an extra
two or three thousand when you are living on Social Security.

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