Sun CEO to Torvalds: Let's work together, Torvalds: Solaris could nudge Linux to GPL 3

http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9729019-7.html

http://news.com.com/Torvalds+Solaris...to+GPL+3/2100-...
http://tinyurl.com/26cuhf

"If Sun really is going to release OpenSolaris under GPL 3, that may
be a good reason" to move Linux to the new license, Torvalds said in a
posting to the Linux kernel mailing list on Sunday. "I don't think the
GPL 3 is as good a license as (GPL) 2, but on the other hand, I'm
pragmatic, and if we can avoid having two kernels with two different
licenses and the friction that causes, I at least see the reason for
GPLv3."

-Ramon

On Jun 13, 12:42 pm, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9729019-7.html
>
> http://news.com.com/Torvalds+Solaris...url.com/26cuhf
>
> "If Sun really is going to release OpenSolaris under GPL 3, that may
> be a good reason" to move Linux to the new license, Torvalds said in a
> posting to the Linux kernel mailing list on Sunday. "I don't think the
> GPL 3 is as good a license as (GPL) 2, but on the other hand, I'm
> pragmatic, and if we can avoid having two kernels with two different
> licenses and the friction that causes, I at least see the reason for
> GPLv3."
>
> -Ramon

Why would anyone care what Torvalds think? I need a stable easy to
use operating system. Linux is anything but that. Linux is the product
of a million script-kiddies pounding on a million keyboards. Linux is
Torvalds kernel built with and wrapped in GNU software. Think of it
this way, GNU software; Good. Linux kernel: Bad

mommycalled-at-gmail.com writes:

> On Jun 13, 12:42 pm, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>> http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9729019-7.html
>>
>> http://news.com.com/Torvalds+Solaris...url.com/26cuhf
>>
>> "If Sun really is going to release OpenSolaris under GPL 3, that may
>> be a good reason" to move Linux to the new license, Torvalds said in a
>> posting to the Linux kernel mailing list on Sunday. "I don't think the
>> GPL 3 is as good a license as (GPL) 2, but on the other hand, I'm
>> pragmatic, and if we can avoid having two kernels with two different
>> licenses and the friction that causes, I at least see the reason for
>> GPLv3."
>>
>> -Ramon
>
> Why would anyone care what Torvalds think? I need a stable easy to
> use operating system. Linux is anything but that. Linux is the product
> of a million script-kiddies pounding on a million keyboards. Linux is
> Torvalds kernel built with and wrapped in GNU software. Think of it
> this way, GNU software; Good. Linux kernel: Bad
>

You have it the wrong way around.

Kernel excellent. Most OSS SW - "amateur and half assed". The exceptions
being the obvious programs like Gimp, emacs, mplayer, firefox.

The kernel is in the hands of very few programmers compared to the big
sourceforge projects out there creating "yet another irc client, or
Linux distro.

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:42:24 -0700, mommycalled wrote:

> On Jun 13, 12:42 pm, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>> http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9729019-7.html
>>
>> http://news.com.com/Torvalds+Solaris...url.com/26cuhf
>>
>> "If Sun really is going to release OpenSolaris under GPL 3, that may
>> be a good reason" to move Linux to the new license, Torvalds said in a
>> posting to the Linux kernel mailing list on Sunday. "I don't think the
>> GPL 3 is as good a license as (GPL) 2, but on the other hand, I'm
>> pragmatic, and if we can avoid having two kernels with two different
>> licenses and the friction that causes, I at least see the reason for
>> GPLv3."
>>
>> -Ramon
>
> Why would anyone care what Torvalds think? I need a stable easy to
> use operating system. Linux is anything but that. Linux is the product

Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer Solaris,
that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit you.
There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.

> of a million script-kiddies pounding on a million keyboards. Linux is

Not even slightly as *you* describe it. Script-kiddies? Are you ignorant,
stupid, or just totally malicious?

> Torvalds kernel built with and wrapped in GNU software. Think of it
> this way, GNU software; Good. Linux kernel: Bad

Linux kernel: Excellent. GNU software: great. Linux distros: priceless.

--
Kier

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:

> Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer Solaris,
> that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit you.

Agreed so far.

> There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.

I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
technical arguments).

--
Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OGB member

CEO,
My Online Home Inventory

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"Rich Teer" wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.64.0706140922500.21332-at-marrakesh.. .
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:
>
>> Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer Solaris,
>> that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit you.
>
> Agreed so far.
>
>> There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.
>
> I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
> technical arguments).

To these clowns "better" means cheaper. Since lienux is free it's infinitely
better than anything that costs more than a dollar.

Technically Solaris blows the doors off of lienux. The only drawbacks are
limited device support and Solaris requires decent hardware to run well.
Most of these lienux guys pride themselves on running some lightweight
distro on a 350Mhz Pentium II that they pulled out of a dumpster. They're
too cheap to spend money on hardware too.



>
> --
> Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OGB member
>
> CEO,
> My Online Home Inventory
>
> Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
> URLs: http://www.rite-group.com/rich
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:34:42 -0400, Dr. GroundAxe wrote:

>
> "Rich Teer" wrote in message
> news:Pine.SOL.4.64.0706140922500.21332-at-marrakesh.. .
>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:
>>
>>> Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer Solaris,
>>> that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit you.
>>
>> Agreed so far.
>>
>>> There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.
>>
>> I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
>> technical arguments).
>
> To these clowns "better" means cheaper. Since lienux is free it's infinitely
> better than anything that costs more than a dollar.

Don't do dollars. Don't do lienux, either. Niever herad of it, in fact.
Did you make it up like you make up all your tripe?

>
> Technically Solaris blows the doors off of lienux. The only drawbacks are
> limited device support and Solaris requires decent hardware to run well.
> Most of these lienux guys pride themselves on running some lightweight
> distro on a 350Mhz Pentium II that they pulled out of a dumpster. They're
> too cheap to spend money on hardware too.

Well, you just blew yourself right out of the water there, pal, because I
recently spend the best part of two thousand pounds on computer equipment,
all to run Linux on.

--
Kier

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:24:44 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:
>
>> Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer Solaris,
>> that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit you.
>
> Agreed so far.
>
>> There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.
>
> I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
> technical arguments).

Why should I?

--
Kier

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:00:00 +0100 Kier wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:24:44 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Kier wrote:
>>
>>> Of a lot of hard work by Linus Torvalds and others. You prefer Solaris,
>>> that's fine, but don't slag off Linux just because it doesn't suit you.
>>
>> Agreed so far.
>>
>>> There's a reason more people use Linux. It's better.
>>
>> I'm curious; please tell us how Linux is better than Solaris (stick to
>> technical arguments).
>
> Why should I?

Wow, you should run for national political office.

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:02:18 +0200 Hadron Quark wrote:
> Kernel excellent. Most OSS SW - "amateur and half assed". The exceptions
> being the obvious programs like Gimp, emacs, mplayer, firefox.

gimp is the exception? wow. shoot me.