Lookng for Unix-like OS that will recognize my wireless card

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:35:21 +1000, Graham Menhennitt
wrote:

>I'm in a similar boat. I'd love to use Agent (and I probably can under
>Wine). But before I resort to that, I'm trying an alternative - Pan.

If you're only interested in a newsreader and don't need the advanced
features of Agent, Pan would be an option.

But since Pan doesn't handle email, and I prefer to have it all in one
package the way it is with Agent, its not an option for me. I have
given it a look but didn't install it when I set up a different
partition arrangement for Ubuntu.

t2000kw-at-nospam.invalid wrote:
>
> I can change my terminology. I thought that it would be termed
> similarly since they (BSD and Linux) are both Unix-compatible
> operating systems and close cousins.

Beware of sibling rivalry!

8-)

Actually, that's not fair, though it is somewhat funny.
Linux seems to have its roots in Andrew Tannenbaum's Minix,
while *BSD has its roots in the Jolitz port of Net/2 to the
386. One could point to them as examples of convergent
evolution. Far enough back they might share a common
ancestor, but it's in the intellectual realm, not code.
As time passes, they do seem to share more characteristics.

bob prohaska

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:39:00 -0400
t2000kw-at-nospam.invalid wrote:

> If my wife is to use the computer at all, it HAS to have Agent on it.
> I have Agent working under Ubuntu using Wine on the desktop computer
> with less memory than the laptop has. But it is a much faster
> computer, too.

If it will run happily under Wine then there shouldn't be a
problem, Wine is in the ports.

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:44:09 -0400, t2000kw-at-nospam.invalid wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:35:21 +1000, Graham Menhennitt
> wrote:
>
>>I'm in a similar boat. I'd love to use Agent (and I probably can under
>>Wine). But before I resort to that, I'm trying an alternative - Pan.
>
>If you're only interested in a newsreader and don't need the advanced
>features of Agent, Pan would be an option.

Ok, I've just given up on Pan - couldn't stand it any longer. I'm now
running Agent under Wine. If this post makes it out, I won't be
switching back!

Graham

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:11:23 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith
wrote:

> If it will run happily under Wine then there shouldn't be a
>problem, Wine is in the ports.

It runs happily under wine only on the desktop. Wine does not like my
laptop for some reason, at least under Linux. Therein lies the
problem.

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:47:17 +1000, Graham Menhennitt
wrote:

>
>Ok, I've just given up on Pan - couldn't stand it any longer. I'm now
>running Agent under Wine. If this post makes it out, I won't be
>switching back!

It made it. I'm using Agent on this desktop and have been for a month
or so, whenever I started with Ubuntu and learned enough about Wine to
get it running. I thought I was going to have to invest in Crossover
Office. So far, on the desktop anyway, everything I wanted to have
running under Wine does so (only a few programs).

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:54:02 -0400
t2000kw-at-nospam.invalid wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:11:23 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith
> wrote:
>
> > If it will run happily under Wine then there shouldn't be a
> >problem, Wine is in the ports.
>
> It runs happily under wine only on the desktop. Wine does not like my
> laptop for some reason, at least under Linux. Therein lies the
> problem.

Was the version of Wine you used compiled for
that PII box - it may have been compiled assuming a later processor. It may
also just be hitting resource limits.

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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:01:08 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith
wrote:

> Was the version of Wine you used compiled for
>that PII box - it may have been compiled assuming a later processor. It may
>also just be hitting resource limits.

Good question, and the answer is likely to be no, but I am not sure of
that. It's old enough that I wouldn't be surprised if that was the
case (1999 vintage, but average for that era).

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:22:17 -0400
t2000kw-at-nospam.invalid wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:01:08 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith
> wrote:
>
> > Was the version of Wine you used compiled
> > for
> >that PII box - it may have been compiled assuming a later processor. It
> >may also just be hitting resource limits.
>
> Good question, and the answer is likely to be no, but I am not sure of
> that. It's old enough that I wouldn't be surprised if that was the
> case (1999 vintage, but average for that era).

Certainly things like MMX (did the PII have any MMX ?) have grown a
lot since first being introduced. A compile from source making sure no
flags or config options are set to assume anything newer than a PII will
probably help a lot.

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 07:28:21 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith
wrote:

> Certainly things like MMX (did the PII have any MMX ?) have grown a
>lot since first being introduced. A compile from source making sure no
>flags or config options are set to assume anything newer than a PII will
>probably help a lot.

Can you compile something like this on a faster computer for the
slower one if you make the selections in the questionnaire for the
slower one, or does it need to be done on the same computer it will be
used on?